Lesh and Jazza from NOMADasaurus have been travelling the world together since 2008. Through their website they promote sustainable, long-term adventure travel. Their current trip will see them backpacking overland from Thailand to South Africa without using any air transport. To get more updates, please follow them on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Google+ and Pinterest.
What do you think you would be doing if you were not on the road now?
Jazza: If I was not on the road now I would probably be living in Canada, spending all summer working and all winter snowboarding. Our hearts lie in Canada and we still talk about going back there at some point. If I had never travelled I would probably still be in Sydney, Australia, but who knows what I would be doing to fill my time. It would probably be unsavoury, however.
Lesh: I agree with Jazza. We loved Canada. He loved the winters more and I loved the summers more. If we still lived there I would work all winter and have summer off, and he would have it the other way round.
How do you share your work while travelling? Who does what?
Jazza: I write most of the articles and stories for NOMADasaurus and our other partners, as well as managing the technical side behind the website. For the most part though I spend my ‘worktime’ procrastinating.
Lesh: I do all the social media for our blog. I didn’t realise how much time it takes up. I am starting to get my head around it and develop an understanding of the different platforms. We are also getting the chance to meet up for a drink with other travellers from social media, so it is winning in all areas. I do write some informative articles for our site and I take all the photos.
Jazza: Lesh, you take, “most” of the photos. Haha. I would like to claim credit for all the best ones, although this is probably unfounded.
How do you take decisions together for next destinations?
Jazza: Our decision making process rarely goes beyond one of us blurting out an idea and then we run with it. For this SE Asia to South Africa trip, Lesh came up with the idea of visiting Africa while we were on a bus in Mexico. The no flying overland part developed shortly after in a guesthouse somewhere in Central America and now here we are.
Lesh: We work well together with the decision-making side of the things and where to go next. We will meet in the middle if we are bumping heads. Jazza is a bit more adventurous than me so some of his ideas I need a little convincing to go along. But wherever we go and whatever we decide we always stick together.
Are there any personality changes that you can observe on yourself and on your partner since you have hit the road?
Jazza: Lesh has always been adventurous but over the last few years she has really changed to start being more welcoming to my crazy ideas. It used to be just me wanting to do interesting and possibly dangerous adventures and she tagged along to make sure I didn’t hurt myself. Now she has really become the one to suggest we go to isolated countries and use random means of transport. As for myself I definitely don’t party as hard as I used to.
Lesh: I don’t think so Jazz. I guess maybe your convincing is working really well. I do think of some crazy ideas but then I think “what am I saying… I don’t know now”. I am way more adventurous since I met Jazza but I am still cautious and make sure it’s safe. Jazza doesn’t party as much. He used to go out into the early hours of the morning when we first got together. I tried but he always out-partied me. Now we like to have a drink but prefer to be in bed at a reasonable hour to make the most of the next day. We always think, “when are we going to be in this part of the world again?”.
Living and travelling together 24/7 may bring stressful moments related to disagreements, changes of mood or misunderstandings. How do you cope with these situations?
Jazza: We travel together pretty well. In fact it is unbelievable how smoothly we can push through stressful situations. We rarely have disagreements that last longer than a few minutes.
Lesh: Very true. We do need time out from each other sometimes, usually just for an hour or two. In these situations he usually goes out and has a beer with people and I’ll go for a walk or chill out listening to music. Surprisingly we get along and travel so well together. If something’s wrong or annoying either one of us, we tell the other person, get it off our chest and move on with the day. No point holding grudges.
Which is the most beautiful moment you are glad you have experienced together?
Jazza: There are so many it is hard to pinpoint just one. I would say just about every kilometre of our motorcycle adventure across SE Asia has been beautiful – even the crappy, wet, dusty moments when our bikes have broken down during storms. I’m so glad we have got to see the things we have and end up in the remote places we’ve seen together. Cave diving in the cenotes in Mexico was pretty surreal, and working on a catamaran in Central America was awesome too.
Lesh: I’d agree. Definitely the motorbike adventure. I would never have got a bike on my own. Seeing what we have seen, like the incredible scenery and meeting amazing people, it means so much more to me and I know Jazz that we have been able to do it together and appreciate all the small things in each other’s company.
Can you tell us about one crazy or risky thing you’ve done while traveling that you would and one that you wouldn’t want to repeat again?
Jazza: We’ve done so many crazy and risky things that I can’t really narrow it down to one. Our motorbike adventure across South East Asia I guess, seeing as we never knew how to ride bikes before we bought them could be classified as risky. I don’t think there is anything that I wouldn’t do again.
Lesh: Nothing we wouldn’t do again but we have learnt from risky situations. I always go by my gut feeling and let Jazza know if I don’t feel right around people or areas. We just missed being involved in a raid in a bar in Guatemala as the owner was a drug dealer. I had a bad feeling and we didn’t stay for a drink despite the owner’s pleas, and an hour later that place got raided. Innocent people had to pay the police just to get out of the situation, even though they had nothing to do with it. Just at the wrong place at the wrong time.